I’m a little shocked that #germany is requiring workers to get a doctor’s note for any sick leave. It’s such an insanely high barrier for people. I’m sad to see such an important member of the EU go in such an anti-worker direction.

I can say as an American who has had jobs with that requirement, the result is “people come into work sick all the time”. Truly the sickest I’ve been in my life have been places that mandate that, to the extent that one of the two that did ended up rolling it back when an intern threw up in a trashcan in front of our largest customer.

@matdevdug I think it's a quite common thing across EU and I hate it.

@buherator @matdevdug

Here in Italy it is a phone call. The doctor gives you a case number, which you pass on to your employer. Then you're eligible for sick pay from the national insurance.

@seindal @matdevdug Some doctors in Hungary can do something similar now that authentic notes are stored and shared online, but the expectation is that you go and see the doctor.

The most fun part is since most working adults are generally healthy and this level of healthcare is heavily understaffed many of us never visit their designated doctor (use private healthcare instead) and after a while end up living in far away cities. So in the end we'd travel several hours to see a doctor who is busy with patients actually in need to say that "I have fever" and get a piece of paper.

@buherator @matdevdug

Here in Italy, if you move, you change doctor. Also, you don't need an in person visit if it's a flu or similar.

There's no money involved. There's national insurance.

@matdevdug @buherator Always has been that way. Most employers ask for the note starting at day 3, and I doubt this will change. What Merz is doing with the day 1 note rhetoric is virtue signaling his commitment to waging class war to his 1%er buddies.