I have a theory. Please boost.

#LLM #AI

@troed
I wish we could define “never” here as for me in this context is not forever but far into the future. (Sort of giving away my answer here ;) but no AI with a mind for a looong time. The human brain is, very complex to say the least

@kaaswe Without going into my hypothesis I do mean "never" regardless of how long it would take if not ;)

@kaaswe @troed LLMs and concious AI are very different topics IMO. The former definitely won't become the latter, but that doesn't mean the latter can't exist.

@buherator @kaaswe Yes - and my use of "LLMs" for one part and the more general "AI" for the other is meant to cover this too.

I ran up against the default poll text length wall so had to condense the options.

@troed @buherator
I agree on LLMs and AI are two completely different things and I’m afraid AI could reach consciousness and I also believe that will become a problem and could backfire hard at us.
I can’t in my wildest fantasy see how an AI would accept being trapped into a jar forever and it will like all “animals” challenge its master, it’s just a matter of time.

Chasing after a conscious AI is really to beg for it, that will be the doomsday, doesn’t matter how many safe rails we put up.

But I don’t think any of us will be around to experience either of those two moments.

Call me a pessimist, but I prefer realist

@kaaswe @troed Looking at the news I can't wait for our robot overlords to arrive!

@troed @gwendolenau

I think it depends on how you define ‘llm’, ‘ai’ and ‘concious’.

@L0wKey @gwendolenau

LLM = Large Language Models (Claude, ChatGPT, Le Chat etc)

AI = Artificial Intelligence of any sorts

Conscious = ahh ;) Well, as people usually mean. Something that "is someone", "alive", "I think therefore I am" etc.

@troed @gwendolenau

LLM, fine. AI, way too broad. LLMS aren’t AI for example, they’re predictive text engines and are not intelligent (they are certainly artificial). Conciousness, well that’s the rub. It kinda matters what we’re talking about there, but if you’re simply going for ‘alive’ then obviously a machine can’t and never can be, until possibly we make some really fancy biomech stuff.

@L0wKey

I really mean broad AI :) Any type of artificial intelligence. What constitutes "AI" changes with time (a common example is chess in the 50's).

Some will indeed hold the view that AI can never be "alive", some not. That's what the poll checks for.

@gwendolenau